Amin Sama its a shame that bbc providing such a biased documentary, didn't expect this from BBC. facts twisted tried to represent Muslim leaders negative! Do not watch, complete bullshit ! its better to watch pogo then this propaganda. highly disappointed ! very selective panel of historians to speak rubbish about ottomans !

mahdavi-1 In the end I struggled to decide whether this series was meant as history or propaganda. The most disturbing part for me was watching Rageh Omaar question whether the slaughter of Armenians by the Ottomans was genocide. To most people and historians the deliberate murder of 75% of an ethnic group with the purpose of wiping them out constitutes genocide. Rageh and the BBC can obfuscate this as much as they like for their own political ends, but the wholesale slaughter and destruction of an ethnic group and its culture is certainly genocide. To deny or even justify this is evil of the highest form. Furthermore, I have a hard time understanding why the Ottomans were portrayed as victims through this 'documentary'. Since when could you be classified as a victim after invading most of the Middle East and southeast Europe, committing slavery and genocide? The true victims were those colonised by the Ottoman Empire, particularly those subjected to genocide on the basis of their faith and ethnicity, which are Armenians, Assyrians, Pontic Greeks and Lebanese Maronites.

m-ozfirat I watched this great series on the BBC and it was good Rageh Omaar and the BBC are great intellectually and good candidates for making documentaries with Rageh an Oxford History graduate being the ideal presenter for this documentary and the BBC being rational and logical when making documentaries unlike the cartoon programs on the History Channel. It starts with the rise of the Ottoman empire and its origins though details about their Mongol for fathers are ignored. This reference would of explained their origins better. The second episode was about how they ruled their empire. Compared to Europe the Ottomans were liberal and humanist. A reviewer has attacked this documentary for being pro-Ottoman which is a rhetorical polemic and in context his review reflects his personal beliefs disguised as history rather then genuine fact. It was well balanced as in some cases the Greeks had a loud voice too. Each community had its dimms based on a religion but they had the right to be governed by their own religious and cultural laws under Muslim rule and had equal rights in every social aspect. They only had to pay a tax and if they could not afford to then the devrisheme system came in as insurance for that. Looking at European imperialism the genocide of the greater American Indians an expansion of Crusading and the aggressive enforcement of Christianity on Africa, Asia and the Americas who really was the intolerant one. He also contradicts himself by saying by comparison American segregation was multi-cultural when it was designed to stop that and keep blacks permanently socially low and isolated the same as apartheid in South Africa. The series and this episode however ignores the permanent and significant impact of Islam in the European Balkans such as Bosnia and Albania proof no one was forced to convert. The third episode was good in how the Ottoman empire declined and how modern Turkey came along now with a revival of the Ottoman heritage, roots for National identity and with a growing economy Geo-political awareness. However I feel Mehmet Ali of Egypt should of got a mention and the Megali Idea the Greek version of the Nazi lebensraum which was supported by Neo-Classicists which provoked the Turks in to the Greco-Turkish war were mutual interests culminated in a populations swap. The Armenian accusations were handled with ambiguity. It started as a war acting in Russia's interests for which there is a historical record but ended in deportation as a result there was no ideological motive. In the same context The Boer war and the Indian mutiny can easily be considered genocide. There should of been one more episode about the post Ottoman world as the last episode was squeezed in about the final days of the Ottoman empire and its legacy to which are the bulk roots of the problems in the Middle East after the European takeover. However a great series on a silent topic never found in mainstream documentaries. It is also a challenge to Eurocentric views which are still fairly dominant but now are being challenged

meastn Excellent documentary, Do not listen to people telling this documentary do not tell the whole story. All episodes take an hour to watch which is long in terms of TV story telling. Still the aim of the documentary is to give a glimpse of the Ottoman history and their importance in power politics rather than telling a historical story. And they do it perfectly. As the documentary states without knowing the Ottoman millennium nobody can really understand the Middle East and the Balkans truly. Ottomans as the Muslim emperor's of Europe has became a sign of the "evil" for the other part of the continent, defined by brutality etc. The memories of a Muslim power challenging Christian Europe is so fresh and unforgettable that people generally put all bad things on them. This approach is not history, but pure Eurocentrism. The reality is Ottomans were an Empire, who acted like an empire which had sheer force but also good aspects like the Romans. You can not see a soul, blaming the Romans for their brutality (kiling 700 thousand people just for fun, even killing Jesus himself) but just thankful thoughts claiming them to be their father. Because they are the good figure in the contemporary ordinary Western mind. Ottomans and their descendants are the ultimate "OTHER" for the Westerners, thus what ever they do and did in the past will accepted as bad. A biased view, but a social reality. This is why people easily play the "anachronism" card, blaming the Ottomans not to be democratic enough, not giving the Jews to wear beautiful and colorful hats, where in the contemporary Europe people were burning each other because of the religion. And while everybody is talking about the poor Christian slaves of the time, where Europeans take slave trade to an industrial level putting tens of millions people on boats just for profit. The comments becomes pure fun, when we hear about Ottomans converting Kurds to Islam. It is not important for the ordinary mind that Kurds have been Muslims almost 500 years before the Ottomans. Since Islam is bad and the Ottomans are savages, what option is left to see poor Kurds to be converted to that backward religion other than those savages. This documentary is a simplified version of a 600 years of power politics and culture that everybody can easily understand if all prejudices are left aside. If not as Einstein said "breaking prejudices is harder than breaking atoms."