Lee Eisenberg Warner Bros. animation had passed their apex (or, to reference Wile E. Coyote and the Road Runner, is that acme?) by 1958, but they still turned out good stuff. One example was Robert McKimson's "Pre-Hysterical Hare", in which Bugs Bunny finds a reel of film from the Stone Age wherein a dimwitted hunter who just happens to resemble Elmer Fudd goes after a rabbit who just happens to look like Bugs, except with longer front teeth. Sure enough, Elmer's caveman ancestor turns out to be no match for Bugs's ancestor.As expected, Dave Barry's Elmer voice doesn't sound right. Nobody could voice the clueless hunter like Arthur Q. Bryan. Mel Blanc tried to after Bryan died, but not even the man of 1,000 voices could imitate that voice, so they discontinued the character. Otherwise, it's a funny cartoon. We can forgive the obvious plot holes (how'd the people in 10,000 BC know which year it was?) since this is a cartoon.'Twas always thus indeed!

Horst in Translation ([email protected]) Even if this 7-minute short film from over 55 years ago includes cartoon legends Robert McKimson, Tedd Pierce and Mel Blanc, I thought this wasn't really too funny sadly. The prehistoric versions of Elmer and Bugs were only interesting for a couple seconds and the way they go against each other with Bugs always winning of course. It's basically a film within a film. After roughly 90 seconds in we switch to the prehistoric past and follow the two heroes' adventures back then. I must say I have seen many better and superior Warner Bros Looney Toons and I cannot really recommend this one. Still it's not a complete disaster either, it's just that the expectations were maybe too high, but then again, by 1958, these cartoons were already becoming a bit worse I think. Not recommended.

Steve Carras Ian L., not sure if Seely or designated film editor Treg Brown chose the music, though John Seely WAS the boss of the stock music, but seems everybody in the business then worked or moonlighted at various stock libraries, and they were purchased by Seely and his co-producer Ken Nelson at Capitol Records. In addition, of course, there was original music done for Capitol, and here, or "HARE", is where it gets more confusing:A number of different composers-George Hormel, Jack Cookerly, Emil Cadkin, John Seely, Bill Loose, Joseph Cacciola, Spencer Moore, and Seely's successor Ole Georg and such later names as Ib Glindemann were credited writers,but even more----people NEVER credited for some of those. Among those was some A listers-- such as David Rose!!!! Yes, the same one who once married Judy Garland and made all those records!.Mr. "Holiday for Strings" and "The Stripper" himself.According to researcher Paul Mandell, from John himself---David Rose had "written them" but was expected and very graciously;y sold them "rights free and composer free" (and credit-free, as I have pointed out.)Another of those ghost writers was Jack Meakin and there were others. (Meakin became among the more noted, in part for George A.Romero's "Night of the Living Dead")Still also, John Seely was A-not THE-but A distributor of composer Jack Shaindlin's, and possibly Chappell's and various others on their own labels (the composers mentioned above, though only a few wrote original pieces-and boy, did they EVER!-for Capitol, usually had already written for Sam Fox, or Phil Green's solo composition's for UK's EMI Photoplay, and others that wound up in Capitol's connections, and all of this was RELEASED and LABELED as Capitol Hi-Q.)Whew! So in short----suffice it to say that the music came from a variety of sources. To another poster: Well, to be honest, on the music matching up, especially with Milt Franklyn, a lot of the Warner Bros.cartoons made at the time, in 1958, like the previous year's "What's Opera Doc?" that continued to be praised, had music going against the action, and Carl Stalling in the heyday in the pre-1950s years, did it much better.On Elmer Fudd's voice: Neither Mel Blanc nor the radio character actor responsible for the official voice, Arthur Q.Bryan, is used (nor were Daws Butler or Hal Smith, as was assumed in the 1980s.) As probably is already mentioned in the entry credits and the reviews, comedian Dave Barry (not the current humorist!!) tried the hand at doing Elmer's "wewentwess" :) hunter voice, and did it badly,a admittedly. Another irony, Mel Blanc was the narrator heard briefly. More on the stock cues, relevant only to this particular short (WB did five others during that 1958 musician strike, and even some other projects like the "Bell Science", using this):Most of John Seely's Capitol stock music like in the sequence with Mel's narration is from the Dramatic series and adding to the eventual cult status of the library, can be heard (again!) "The Night of the Living Dead" and "MST3K" worthy (Bugs proves himself such by commenting on his stone age counterpart) horror flicks from earlier ("The hideous Sun Demon" and "Teenagers from Outer Space!!"). Incidentally, recognizable stock music is in the second half, though to add to the cartoon's bad reputation, that is where Bugs and Elmer meet-it's the "Eccentric Comedy Suite" by David Rose, which graced many a Ruff and Reddy and Yogi/Huck/Meeces show, and others, contractually credited (see my earliest paragraphs, to John Seely and Bill Loose).The cues were TC-(ThemeCraft) 201, and 300. And that's TC-202 used on the opening. Those number/letter, and in many cases if variants on a cue was done, an addition letter, codes, were used to personalize the publisher-s there's another stock cue used on this, in "Gopher Broke" and THREE times in "Hip Hip Hurry", two others in the Warner Bros. fall 1958 schedule, L-69 Animation Comedy, credited to Zephyr Records producer Spencer Moore. His partner was the separetly credited George Hormel, who used ZR. (Moore had worked at a few other publishing firms.) No doubt this databse and other reviewers will have more information. I got this from odds and ends, including several music blogs, but this is in my words.Incindetally, just rememebred, the entry credits for this will have other names, too. So I'll just leave it here.

ianlueck The Looney Tunes series had very few complete clunkers. Unfortunately, "Pre-Hysterical Hare" was one of the few in that category. And it's not just mediocre; it's a total whiff.The first major problem is that the main premise (that is, prehistoric versions of Bugs and Elmer) takes a good two minutes to get started. By that time, there are room for only a few set pieces before the cartoon abruptly ends. And because the pacing of the gags was slower than in the 40's and early 50's shorts, there are even less gags overall. They really should have started on the prehistoric setting (perhaps with brief narration to describe that the characters are ancestors of the characters we know and love) instead of doing a pointless Bugs/Elmer chase in the present and Bugs discovering and setting up the film reel that showcases the prehistoric Bugs and Elmer.And what we do get is pretty old hat, even for 1958 when the cartoon came out. Ooh, a gag where Bugs blows into the opposite end of a dart gun so that Elmer swallows his own projectile. Seen that before. Then there's a gag where Bugs teaches Elmer how to load a rifle but puts a component on backwards so Elmer shoots himself. Again, nothing unique there. There was also no creativity to Elmer setting a rope trap but Bugs merely pulling the rope so Elmer falls out of the tree.But the worst offense of "Pre-Hysterical Hare" is that it's just boring. For starters, there's no energy to the cartoon. There are a few scenes where Bugs and Elmer just stand around, talking. How exciting. And even the gags themselves are executed in a very listless, tired manner. The other reason the cartoon's boring is that instead of Milt Franklyn's always enjoyable orchestral music, we get a series of stock music pieces chosen by John Seely which don't follow the on-screen action as closely. Bear in mind, I have nothing against stock music; for example, I love the music from Ren & Stimpy, and even some of the music used in the other Looney Tunes shorts with Seely's input is catchy (see "A Bird in a Bonnet" and "Weasel While You Work"). But what is used here is just bland, and doesn't accentuate the gags at all. Even the title card music could put you to sleep.Other problems with this short? There's some brief (yet pretty obvious and jarring) repeat footage from an earlier cartoon, someone else other than Arthur Q. Bryan playing Elmer (and doing a poor imitation at that), a prehistoric Bugs design that isn't really much different than the modern Bugs design (only changes are longer teeth, bad posture, and slightly more shaggy fur), and a glaring goof where Bugs doesn't move his mouth when saying a line. No, I doubt it's an internal monologue, because his lips were moving just a couple seconds earlier.There's one decent joke in this cartoon, and that's Bugs mocking Elmer's trademark laugh. But it comes at the very end of the short, so by then, it's too little, too late. Overall, "Pre- Hysterical Hare" has a "phoned in" feel that doesn't even come close to taking advantage of its prehistoric setting, which is a shame because Bugs cartoons are often some of the best in the classic cartoon library, and Robert McKimson (who directed this) has done better with the character than this. Worth a look for morbid curiosity, but definitely not one you'll be re- watching over and over.